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- From: fischerj@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Juergen "Rally" Fischer)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: FWD: Fate of 68080
- Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:21:47 GMT
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- In article <4cu853$5je@ratatosk.uio.no>, renatob@fys.uio.no (Renato Bugge) writes:
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- |> In article <4ctbjv$js6@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, Iain Bennett <ijrb@bnr.ca> says:
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- |> >>I know.. there'll soon be a PPC, but..
- |> >>Too bad...
- |> >
- |> >The 680X0 line is a dying line anyway. The only computers that use
- |> >Motorolla 680X0 chips are the Amiga and Macintosh. Oh, some game
- |> >consoles use the 680X0 as well.
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- |> The IBM AS/400 mini-machines uses 680X0 chips.
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- a 1985 sun used a 020-12, slower than my A1200 ;)
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- |> >Yes PowerPC is coming... to a certain extent. Apple has had some
- |> >problems recently with Motorolla and IBM. I don't know what to expect
- |> >of this.
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- |> Personally, I hope we don't have to see Amiga's with this chip. PowerPC-
- |> chips are really not that fast.
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- but AFAIK quite fast/$
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- |> >Maybe Amiga Technologies should still have a look at using HP, DEC or
- |> >possibly ARM. Then again, Amiga Tech could join Apple and benefit from
- |> >helping to design PowerPC chips...
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- |>
- |> It they want to go faster, then why don't they just make an Amiga with
- |> an Alpha 275MHz processor. It's fast (and expensive).
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- powerful hi-end Amigas are good for reputation, cheap lo-end ones
- give the salaries. Maybe the Amiga goes med-end. A1300 with 030-40
- as new base machine would be nice, but I'm afraid they'll again
- sell it without fastmem :\ They'd better think about improved
- chipmem-acess then (acessing chipmem not over the chips but on
- a own bus. including a chipmem-store cache like on A3000).
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- BTW you both talk like there was only one choice for cpu.
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- If Amiga leaves 680x0 programmers will have to think about portable
- software. Most will use C. C can compile on PPC, Alpha, ARM, .....
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- Sure it also needs money & time to design boards. But if AT has
- chosen PPC, there's nothing against chosing another cpu later.
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- If you intend to do some parts in asm on PPC I suggest you do the same
- part also in C, so the code will compile on any cpu.
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- If AT coult enlighten us if and how mixing 680x0 and PPC code will work
- (emulated 020 code opening librarz recompiled for PPC would be a fine thing).
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- Not only the hardware is the problem, the software is a problem of same
- magnitude, that's what I also always tell when topic is "doom on Amiga".
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